The Seger File

An unofficial web site about the music of Bob Seger
Last updated October 1998
Edited by Scott Sparling
sparling@segerfile.com


Brand New E-Mail

As always, to preserve bandwidth on the internet for others, the following letters have been edited to delete superfluous exclamation marks...except in a few cases, where the overuse was so eggregious, I simply had to let it stand as kind of a warning and bad example for others.

The letters are in black. The part in red is my reply. The letters are in chronological order, except for the few I've grouped by sugject. And in case you don't feel like scrolling all down on your on, here are some of my favorites:

Seger, Sinatra, Cobain, etc.
My Dad, Bob, the old days, and Charlie Martin
I work for General Motors
Seger and Muhammad Ali
The last thing I hear from Bob Seger...
Road trip to Ann Arbor
I never spoke to Bob...but he always spoke to me


1

May 11, 1998

From: Greg Willliams <greggpw@yahoo.com>

I used to go out with a girl who said the song "Night Moves" was about her. Got any information on that?

Greg

 

Was she Italian?

-- SS


2

May 14, 1998

From: kwalsh@ll.mit.edu (Kevin Walsh)

Scott,

Your site could be made into a book. I too have been a Bob Seger fan for 25+ years. Although I have lived in MA since 1975, my father was stationed in Michigan from 1973-75.

I have seen Bob many times, with my 1st time being at Boston Garden in 1980 when "Tryin' to Live My Life Without You" and "Nine Tonight" were recorded. My web site (although not as good as yours) has been up for about a year and a half. I try to keep it fresh with info as I get it. The address if you want to check it out is: http://cis.bentley.edu/students/WALSH1_KEVI/seger.html

Anyway, great site and if there is anything I can do or provide, just let me know.

Kevin Walsh


3

May 20, 1998

From: "Cook, Eddie" <ecook@resumix.com>

When Seger went on his last tour, I sat next to a guy who was originally from Detroit and had seen Bob perform in area clubs before he was known. This guy said he worked as a security guard at a show at Cobo, I think he said.

Anyway, he said he was given an album (vinyl) that had a 16 1/2 minute version of "Turn the Page" on it. I think he said the name of the album was "Turn the Page," but I kind of doubt that was the case since I can find no one who has ever heard of such an album.

He said that the only copies of this recording that he knew of were handed out at this concert to only a few individuals. Unfortunately, he lost his in a move south.

My question is: Have you or has anyone else ever heard of such a thing? If so, what is the name of the album? Where might I find a copy of it? And how much should I expect to spend to buy it?

Eddie Cook

 

My initial guess is that the guy sitting next to you was having a lot of fun or did a lot of drugs in the early 70s. Maybe there is a 16 1/2 minute version of Turn the Page out there somewhere...but I've never heard of it. I heard Seger live many times during that era, and never heard him play a long version of "Turn the Page."

-- SS


4

May 23, 1998

From: LoraVee <LoraVee@aol.com>

Hey, I'm a major Seger fan too. My first Seger album was Live Bullet. My babysitter at the time turned me on to him! I live in Ypsilanti, Michigan, and work for the City of Ann Arbor.

What street was that bar on where you first watched Seger? I wonder what it is now. I wish I could have seen Ann Arbor back then...and Bob Seger!

My uncle went to one of Bob's birthday parties back in the early 70's, right before he got really famous. I've got a picture he took there. I never tire of Bob, he's my #1 choice when listening to music.

LoraVee


5

May 24, 1998

From: "roger bohm" <rbohm@hotmail.com>

Scott,

Unbelievable amount of info on Bob Seger...the obvious hard work you put into the site shows. I have been searching my fingers off trying to find the chords for "You'll Accompany Me." OLGA doesn't have it and I have searched a lot of Bob Seger pages with no luck. Can you give me any more suggestions as to where to find the guitar music? Thanks,

Roger Bohm


6

May 27, 1998

From: Larry Cordle <nosecret@swbell.net>

Ok...here goes. Sinatra was a pop singer, but he was much more than that. As a body of work, I'd say his collection is superior to Elvis. Remember, Sinatra sang with Tommy Dorsey. They thought it was pop then, but it's "big band" music, now. Both got involved in some serious lapses in taste late in the game ("Moody Blue" for Elvis , "L.A. Is My Lady " for the chairman.)

As a confirmed rock 'n' roller who thinks Kurt Cobain was the last really important musical figure to hit the bricks...Sinatra was tops...no one like him...not ever again. Seger is right...and woe unto young whippersnappers who miss Sinatra doing "In The Wee Small Hours "

As for Bob, Grand Funk drummer Don Brewer, who toured with him some years back, told me he couldn't understand a music business that has no place for Seger. He also said Seger's experience with "It's A Mystery" convinced G.F.R. not to try a comeback with an album of new material. They must have learned well. They sold 5 thousand seats in San Antonio when I was there.

It's hard to believe that "Stranger In Town" is 20 years gone..."Hollywood Nights" told my story, it seemed, even though I'd never been to L.A....or seen Seger at that point. Same is true of "Beautiful Loser" and "Famous Final Scene"...But when I heard "Roll Me Away" in the closing credits of the film "Mask," I cried at a movie for the first time in years...I don't ride a bike ( I'm..sigh...a chickenshit...) but I sure identified with the fragility of relationships and dreams that song spelled out.

In 1986...I saw Seger for the first and only time in Dallas. Don Henley sat in on "Miami" and oddly I was disappointed in the show...it seemed compared to Springsteen...lightweight and sort of "paint by numbers"...

Bob could never set foot on a stage or in a studio again, and he's already achieved immortality with me. He provided the song that brought my wife of 18 years to me..."You'll Accomp'ny Me " which I played for her on my radio show...as a way of breaking the news to her that I couldn't consider spending my life with anyone else...and she agreed. That was July 1980. We played that song again, just yesterday...and it all came back...

Sure...like all great ones...he's had his ups and downs and even lapses in judgement...but he's got nothing to apologize for...not even that lackluster show in Dallas 12 years ago.

Here's wishing him well...and getting Capitol off their asses...

Larry Cordle

Austin , Texas

 

Thanks for the great note..I think you're right about Sinatra, in terms of impact, overall collection...and, heck, in terms of longevity too. With a few exceptions (like Jim Morrison) staying alive is generally a good career move.

- SS


7 (In Search of "Understanding")

Jun 24, 1998

From: Nita Burke <njburke@mhtc.net>

Would you have the lyrics to the song "Understanding," which appears on the Teachers Soundtrack? I have searched everywhere for the lyrics. Please send them to me, or, let me know where I can at least find them. I would really appreciate it.

Okay, they're attached. One request in return...why do you want these lyrics? Any special reason?

-- SS

Dear Scott,

I am the school librarian at Darlington High School and this is my first year on the job. One of the teachers at my school asked for Bob Seger's lyrics for "Understanding." I suppose that I could have ordered the soundtrack for the movie, Teachers, but I still would not have been assured that the music would have a print copy of the lyrics, and this would have been an expensive way to get information, especially when the school district is on such a limited budget. I think that the teacher, Mr Murphy, wants to use the lyrics in his English class. He does a lot of neat things with his lesson plans with music and poetry. His students are very lucky!

"Understanding" is not one of my favorite songs, but Bob Seger does sing many others, which are my favorites and I do have some of his music. I didn't really know how many hits that he had until I started lurking around the web sites.

Thank you so much for the lyrics. You will never really know how much effect the song might have on a child's education. You just made a difference.

Your Friend in Education,

Nita Burke


Jun 9 1998

From: KRH <krh@sprintmail.com>

Say, this is a great Seger page, the best anywhere. I was hoping you could help me. Seems like he recorded a song that included the lyric "Until you came along, I used to just get lost..."

Does that ring a bell with you? I am going nuts trying to find the name of this song. Help?

Thanks - Kevin


Jul 5, 1998

From: David Faye <dfaye@globalserve.net>

I was in the mall the other day and I heard this song come on that I had never heard before by Bob Seger. I stopped and listened and the only lyrics I can remember from the song are "You got me understanding."

Do you know what song this is and what album it can be found on? One of his 70's albums I guess? Any information on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot!

Mike


Jul 7, 1998

From: costanza@cyberdude.com

Did Bob Seger sing the song 'Understanding' on the Teachers soundtrack or did he write it? If he didn't sing it, who did? And do you know where that album can be bought? Your help here would be appreciated.


Aug 15, 1998

From: Ned Burleson I <nedburlesonii@lawyer.com>

Was "Understanding" ever released on CD? I have a scratchy single of the song, which is my favorite Bob Seger song.


Dear Scott:

I found a 12 inch single of "Understanding." If anybody else is looking for the soundtrack, go to "gemm.com". Type in "Teachers" in the box for artist or album. It is available as a $39.00 Japanese import.

Ned Burleson


Oct 2, 1998

From: Brantley Smith <brantleys@riverpointe.org>

I'm looking for a particular Bob Seger song. I can only remember a few broken lines from what may be the chorus of the song. This is what I remember:

I finally understand it/And there's so much more to know...You're really on my side....

Thanks for your help.

Brantley Smith

 

"Understanding" has never been on a Seger CD. In October 1984, it was released as a 7" and 12" single (both of which can be found with a little searching in used record stores), and it is on the Teacher's soundtrack, which can also be found used (or, as Ned Burleson writes, ordered as an import).

I get more inquiries about "Understanding" and "Get Out of Denver" (see the letters at 31, below) than any other Seger songs.

-- SS

 


8

May 14, 1998

From: "Jon" <elvis@ewol.com>

This is kinda a long story, but since this is the best Bob Seger site I've ever come across, I 'll give it to you!

In the 60's my father had a rock band in the Pontiac area called The Triads. Around the same time, Bob had a band called the Last Heard. Anyhow, my dad played drums and sang and after his gigs he would catch Bob over at the Huron Bowl or wherever he might be playing. If Bob finished early he would go and see my dad's band. They use to sit in with each other on a pretty regular basis.

Well, to make a long story short, my dad had just hired in at GM when he got a phone call from Bob saying that Pep had broke both of his wrists, and that he was leaving to go west in the morning and did he want to go with him. Well, my dad sat up all night thinking about it and decided to stay and work for GM. Well, we all know what happened to Bob. The last time my father saw Bob was when he was playing a New Year's Eve dance in Michigan and he couldn't get in because his date (my mom) was UNDERAGE!!

My folks always had a band in the Detroit, Pontiac, Clarkston area through the 70's and 80's, playing mostly private parties, local clubs and weddings. I grew up with a PA system, drumset and a Hammond Porta B that mom played always in the living room. The bands that dad had besides the Triads that I can remember were: The Sounders, The K-Jays, and the Gentle Touch.

Anyhow, I could play drums before I could walk. While other kids were out playing football or learning math, I was playing drums. At age 7 I was playing 4-hour gigs with mom and dad in supper clubs like the Old Mill in Waterford, before it burnt down. While growing up in Michigan, my folks and I got to know many of the musicians in the area such as: Rick Stockwell and the Thunder Road band, drummer Carl Donato, the Jerry Libby Trio, Suzie and Pete Woodman and many others.

Anyhow, I thought as a child and still do today that Charlie Martin was the best drummer of all time. When I was a kid, I had an old reel to reel that I recorded "Live Bullet" on and slowed it down to figure out what he was laying down. (This is at age 10 mind you.) Anyhow, he was my biggest influence in my drumming.

In 1991, my Dad retired from GM and I graduated from Specs Howard, and afterwards the three of us moved to Florida. Well, I found out that I could make more money playing live music, so along with bouncing from station to station, we put the band back together and we are playing more now then we ever did. Mom is 51, Dad is 59, and I'm 28. We go by the name Smooth Moves www.mypage.ewol.com/elvis

Anyhow, a few years ago I was morning man on an oldies station, WAMR in Venice FL. While I was there, it just so happened that i got my check on the same day that Seger tickets for the USF Sundome in Tampa came out. Well, you know where that check went.

That night at the table, dad was reading the paper and said "Seger's in town" And I said, "yup and we are going" and whipped out the tickets. Although my dad didn't get a chance to meet him again, at least he saw him.

What a show. My boss bitched at me the whole next day as I blew off the play list and played every song Bob ever did and talked about how great it sounded in concert.

Last June, we decided to go back to Michigan...there was a wedding planned and a family reunion planned, so we decided to take our instruments and play some music. Before leaving, I called Suzie Woodman, and she told me.... she was working with another drummer on a few different projects, a real talented guy that I MIGHT have heard of named Charlie Martin.

As I dropped the phone to the floor, picking it back up and saying, "Charlie Alan Martin????"

She said, "Oh, you've heard of him."

Anyhow, to make a long story short, I told Suzie that we were playing a family reunion out in Lake Orion and she and Charlie were more then welcome to stop out. Well, the day was half-way through and I thought they wouldn't be able to make it. Then they pulled up.

We finished our set, and I started to introduce Charlie and Suzie to our family and friends, about 50 or so people. We have our stuff set up in a garage. I asked Suzie and Charlie if they would like to get up and do a couple numbers, and they said sure. I sat down in the audience and Suzie got behind the keyboard. Then Charlie wheels over and picks up a mic to do lead vocals, then he wheels back over and hands me the sticks and says "come play some drums for us." For the first time in my life, I knew what NERVOUS was. The pic is of the 3 of us playing at that party.

I just want to add that Charlie A. Martin is one of the nicest men I've ever met. I respect him and his talents both vocally and on the drums now more then ever and am proud to call him my friend!!

Jon R Sampson

Venice, FL.

P.S. My dad, Jack Sampson, never did get a chance to meet back up with Bob Seger again. If you have the means, please drop Bob a line and tell him Jack Sampson from the Triads says hi. He can be reached at my email address: elvis@ewol.com

Jon,

That's a hell of a story. I don't think I mention it on my web pages, but I've got a set of Slingerland's upstairs that I play from time to time. The truth is, I keep my set around mainly with the hope that my five-year-old will get interested. I would never in a million years play them in front of Charlie Martin, so I admire you, man. And that story about your dad...it's a strange world, with its twists and turns.

I really don't have any access to Seger, but I'd be glad to post you letter, and maybe somebody from Seger's organization will read it.

-- SS


9

Jun 3, 1998

From: Michael Knoll <106230.2736@compuserve.com>

Hi Scott,

I'm Michael Funk from Munich, Germany, and I'm absolutely happy to find your Bob Seger web site. It's great, the best I've found on the web. It 's very difficult in Germany to find any information about Bob Seger.

Today I'm looking for video material, even copies would be great, but it's impossible in Germany to find some. So, it's good to know a reliable place on the web with information.

Michael


10

Jun 1, 1998

From: hershey6@ix.netcom.com

Scott,

I am a long-time Seger fan that can't get enough info on Bob. A very good friend of mine in Michigan told me that Seger is writing a book about his life. Do you know anything about this? P.S. I love your Seger File. Great job!

Jim Vanderwerp

 

I've never heard anything about Seger writing a book...but it wouldn't surprise me. Except, of course, it would take time away from his songwriting.

-- SS


11

Jun 1, 1998

From: T. L. Double (double@ruraltel.net)

Excellent!!!!!!!!! I have always enjoyed his music. Seen him live for the first time in Kansas City, March 22, '96.

Well, gotta go, gonna do a little workin' and a practicin' in the Night Moves.


12

Jun 1, 1998

From: T. L. Double

Just finished reading some of the e-mails again. My apologies for all the exclamation points.

 

Hey, not a problem!!!!!!!

-- SS


13

5 Jun 1998

HBR <71413.1031@compuserve.com>

I stumbled onto your Seger File this morning, and all I can say is, it's about time someone profiled all his work, not just from "Live Bullet" on. I'm one of those guys who always scours the flea-markets for Seger rarities and I'm most impressed.

Some info you might find interesting on the early 45s -- not corrections so much as elaborations. The Cameo version of "East Side Story" (same recording) also has the 1963 copyright.

My copy of the "2+2=?" 45 does have the dead air at the end; I think it's probably the earlier issue because it's on a "swirl" label, but I'm not sure of that.

Yes, there are two different issues of "If I were a Carpenter," and the darker label one is much rarer. (I've only seen one copy of that version and, for reasons I can't recall, I didn't buy it -- nuts!)

Also, your book price for the Cameo "Heavy Music" surprised me, because in my experience

that's the easiest of the five Cameo 45s to find - -easiest being a relative term, of course. I've seen copies available for as little as $5, but they could have been fakes. I also once saw a copy on Hideout (one-sided, black label), for which your price would probably be quite accurate.

Anyhow, I loved the site!

Dave Bede (pronounced with one syllable, long e)

Washington, DC, vinyl_rules@hotmail.com


14

Jun 6, 1998

From: Ttfn2pooh@aol.com

Thanks for making a place for us Seger lovers to go. I have loved him as long as I can remember. Please keep up the good work. If there is a fan club, let me know. I would love to join. I don't know how to get any information on Bob Seger. Thanks for the help.


15

Is Bob Seger going to tour anytime soon? If so I would like to book him. Who do I contact to book B. Seger?

Looking forward to your reply.......

Mitchell Olig, MOlig23288@aol.com

 

I've added your note to the e-mail page, so maybe someone in Bob's organization will see it.

-- SS


16

June 07, 1998

From: Pamela Shepherd <pshepher@seidata.com>

It is so weird that I happened across your website today. I went to a Garth Brooks concert last night and he did the classic "Night Moves." He did a great job on it, hitting almost all the same notes, and the crowd went wild.

Being a Seger fan, my mind went back to the many times I have watched as Seger sang that same song.

My most vivid memory of a Seger concert is in Indy sometime in the late 70's or early 80's. When the lights came up, he was standing on top of a 5-6 ft. speaker. Midway through the song, he jumped from the speaker and never missed a beat. My heart belonged to Bob Seger from that day on. I also saw him during his last tour and still thrilled at his music.

Pam S.


17

Jun 8 1998

From: "tat rocker" <tatrocker@hotmail.com>

Subject: Persecution Smith

I want to get a copy of this song. Can you help? Thanks.


18

Jun 10, 1998

From: J.Provan@civils.salford.ac.uk

I read with interest your web pages and was delighted to read that there is a possibility of some live dates next year. Do you have any more news on this? As a life-long Seger fanatic from the UK, I would be particularly interested to know if there are any plans to play outside the USA?

I would be most grateful for any info as and when you have it. In the meantime keep up the good work - I will continue to check the page for any further updates.


19

Jun 13, 1998

From: DWill55904@aol.com

I just wanted to say I have listened to Bob Seger since I was 13 and I'm now 34. My first boyfriend turned me on to the music...we are still good friends, although married to other people. When we talk about Bob Seger, the spouses do not have the same feeling as we do, which in fact is very close. I love his music so much -- it talks and says about what is going on today and in the 70's and 80's.

I hope he will come again in concert to Philadelphia or New Jersey, because I would love to see him again. I attended every concert that he has put on in Philadelphia.

Thanks again for all the wonderful memories!

Love, Donna

 

I know what you mean about Seger fans feeling kind of a bond...it seems like his music just affects certain people in a powerful way, and it's nice to be able to share that.

-- SS


20

Jun 15 1998

From: JNEW1 <jnew1@mci2000.com>

Thanks for the Seger site...I'm really learning a lot about one of my all-time favorites.

I work for General Motors (Fort Wayne, Indiana Truck Assembly) and love the "Like a Rock" theme. My question is, with G.M. rolling out the new GMT-800 pickups this fall, are there any plans to use Seger in the promos? My hopes are that this will happen because Bob Seger is what Chevy and the American worker are all about.

You said in the opening page that his father worked in an auto plant. Do you know which one, and is this the reason for his doing the campaign? Thanks again for the Seger stuff.

J.S.Newkirk

 

Seger's dad worked for Ford as a company medic. And Seger himself worked on the production line for about three weeks when he was young, but he quit because handling windshields was cutting his hands and making it hard to play guitar. That experience is partly where "Making Thunderbirds" comes from.

-- SS

 

I appreciate your quick answer to my questions. I enjoyed your section "Like a Truck" and can understand your cynicism regarding the commercial side of the music. I would never accuse the man of selling out to make a buck, we all know better than that. I was a Seger fan first, G.M. employee second and I just get very emotional when the music I love is associated with the awesome truck we build. Again, thanks Scott, I will be a regular visitor to your site, it is awesome!

Jeff


21

Jun 16, 1998

From: B3600w@aol.com

I just found your website. Incredible!

Way back in the late 70's, I saw Bob Seger at a World Series of Rock concert in Cleveland. He was not the headliner. I think Peter Frampton was -- but I was only there because my husband wanted to go. Music was always just background noise.

That all changed when I heard Bob Seger. I could not believe it. I could not sit down. Life changed that day. Sounds corny but true. I've always wanted to tell him that he made music come alive for me.

Since that day I have gone to every Seger concert possible for me to get to. The last time was in Oakland several years ago.

Funny..I remember wondering why those Old People were at his concerts in the 70's -- now I'm one of old people.

His songs still get to me. I even like his Like a rock commercial!

Thanks for the great site

 


22

Jun 16, 1998

From: Bill Cook <mustang@tir.com>

Subject: Re: Palladium Poster

Scott,

I took this shot [of the Seger poster] with my Sony digital camera and edited it to the borders of the photo. Did a little touch up work with Adobe PhotoStyler and shabam...there it is.

The Seger postcard had been bid over $40 last time I looked. I've got a bunch of Grande cards, but that seemed a little stiff for a non-Grande artifact - even though I loved the lineup.

I knew you'd enjoy it.

Bill


23

Jun 17, 1998

From: Jeff Butts <gremdude@iserv.net>

Subject: Bob Seger's ubiquity in the Michigander's life

I am by no means a Seger fan on par with most of the people who write and peruse your site. I grew up in Michigan and in 1983 my first cassette ever was Live Bullet.

I listen to a lot of different music but I can't understate the impact Live Bullet had on my development of an appreciation for rock'n'roll. I went to Michigan State and remember vividly having a Lansing rock dj play some vintage anti-war Seger as the Gulf war was in full swing. It resonated with me because I was 18 and the last thing I wanted to have to confront was a war.

After college I worked at Tower records, and we sold tix to that '96 run of shows in Detroit. It was such a big deal to all of the attendees and I had to question why I wasn't excited. In the thralls of alternative, I disregarded Seger as Michigan redneck music and had heard the big hits far too much.

Not long after, I too moved to Oregon and lived in Portland. Michigan rock took a special place in my heart again. I love the MC5, Stooges, Mitch Ryder among others. I developed a liking for Seger again, especially in comparison to the pap which has now taken its place on the rock pedestal at this point.

Anyhoo I moved back to Michigan for the summer recently and will probably pick up a few Seger lp's and really appreciate his place in rock. I would really love to get my hands on those early songs, any suggestions? Thanks for your time and the extensive well-researched info.

Steve Butts


24

Jun 18, 1998

From: "hhawk" <hawk@cancom.net>

Subject: just wondering

Hi there. Just wondering if Bob Seger realizes that two people lost their jobs over the little mishap in Canada last year.


25

Jun 18, 1998

From: "Jonathan Carpenter" <iaincarp@camcomp.com>

Dear Mr. Sparling:

I was wondering if you knew of anyone who has a copy of the Seger song "The Ballad of the Yellow Beret" or what album it is on. I was wanting a copy of it, because I heard it was funny and it would be a unique item. I would appreciate it. Thanks and God Bless.

Very Respectfully;

Jonathan Carpenter


26

Jun 20, 1998

From: jskmsadie@webtv.net (Jeffrey Sallie)

Subject: Back in '72

Is it true that only 5,000 copies of this album were pressed? Why? Other than the obvious sound qualities, this album is one of his best, in my opinion. Why doesn't he remake some of those songs on that album? I love "Rosalie." Seger's "Midnight Rider" cover is almost better than the original.

 

What do you mean, "almost" better?

-- SS


27

Jun 21, 1998

From: "Aikitec DivulgaciÛn" <aikitec@mundivia.es>

Hi,

I've arrived here searching some Seger's midi files ¿Can you give me any idea? ¿URL?

Regards,

Manuel


28

Jun 21, 1998

From: Skylab3@aol.com

Hey, I've got a Seger question. I get a catalog from Wynnco, a freakin' huge source for music memorabilia, and they have a Seger poster for sale for $30. It says it's an original Palladium poster (folded) still in wrapper. Do you have any idea what the poster looks like. I know this is a really oddball question but I thought I'd give it a try.

Big Joe

 

See letter #22 above.

-- SS


29

Jun 25, 1998

From: SEGER77@aol.com

Kewlest Seger page I have ever seen !!!!!

Saw Bob at The Iowa Jam, must have been in '76. Drove 2 and 1/2 hours to get there in a Galaxy 500 that had just had its flat tire changed by pleading with my brother that morning!!! I was going to that show if I had to walk!!!!!

After leaving late, heading down I-80, we get there in record time with no speeding tickets!!!! 1st band was Toby or something like that, so I wandered around looking to get better position for when Bob appeared, then it was another band, then 38 Special. They were good. Then Bob... starting crying as he starting singing!!!!!

I love him. Hope he will tour again because now I have the cash to follow his shows around the Midwest anyway!!!!!!!

I have tons of Seger wavs I share with my Seger heads!!!! Have met lots of great Seger Lovers online and love your page...it is the best!

 

Thanks. And thanks for the 34 exclamation marks in one e-mail...a new record for the Seger File!

--SS


30

Jun 26, 1998

From: Bu221@aol.com

Subject: smokin ops

please check to see if monk bruce played bass. the info that was out there at the time was that there was an album he appeared on with tee&wink, done under the influence of a hypnotist. his credit was as guitar. van winkle played organ bass (b-3) and also on op's (except for heavy music)

 

Okay, I'll check.

-- SS


31 (Getting Out of Denver)

Jun 30, 1998

From: Bob Weitz <bob.weitz@internetmci.com>

It seems that your web site might just be able to help me. You see, I play in a band, and we are doing a great little high-speed rocker by Bob Seger called "Get Out of Denver".

Do you have, or know where to get the lyrics to this song? The phrasing is fast and furious, with many syllables crammed into each line, ala Little Richard.

I have been trying in vain to decipher many of the lines, since the only recording of this song that I know of is live, and therefore somewhat muddier than a studio recording.

Can you help me?

Bob Weitz


Aug 11, 1998

From: Sandra Weinhardt <secop@parlorcity.com>

Dear Mr. Sparling,

Your Seger website is outstanding, too good for my meager superlatives. Do you know where I can find the lyrics to 'Get Out of Denver," one of my life-long Holy Grail quests? Earn my undying devotion and a big fat link or just my greatest thanks. Hugs from Sandra in Indiana

Sandra


Aug 16, 1998

From: "Vincent P. Castellano" <vincentp@nr.infi.net>

Stumbled across your site looking for lyrics to "Get Out of Denver" spent almost an hour thoroughly enjoying browsing around. Let me know if you have the lyrics for that cut


Sep 11, 1998

From: smk1@mindspring.com

scott, i'm looking for the words to the song get out of denver and maybe you can help or direct me to where i can find the words....let me know....thanks. and i like your seger info!

 

Get Out of Denver is the first song that came blasting out of the speakers on the day I discovered my Seger photo on the back of his then-new album (Seven). Consequently, the lyrics are seared into my heart forever (except for the first half of the "southern funky school teacher" line, which I still can't make out). I happily sent them to the above folks.

-- SS


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Jul 2, 1998

From: Marie Rosenbalm <prose@icx.net>

Other than mention them as the Silver Bullet Band you never even named any of the members except the sax player. Have I missed them on your site or do you figure they don't count. Could Seger have done it with out them?

Patrick Rosenbalm

 

The members of the Silver Bullet band are listed on the bands page. And yes, Seger could have done it without them.

-- SS


33

Jul 2, 1998

From: Chazz1970@aol.com

My brother is a big Seger fan. He has this cap and t-shirt he purchased at a concert that he has almost worn out. I am looking for a place that has Seger products. Can you help?

Thanks,

Chazz1970@ao


34

Jul 3, 1998

From: Kaiser155@aol.com

Sparling,

First thing I have to say is Great Web Site! Other than that, you seem to have the current information on Seger and his products. I would be very interested in purchasing a collection of Seger music videos, or Seger in concert. Do such things exist? I cannot find any information anywhere else.

I would appreciate any information you might have, or maybe you could point me in the right direction.

Thanks,

Mark Best


35

Jul 8, 1998

From: Emma

I'm not religious but you're a godsend. Since discovering Seger about 4 years ago (I'm 21), I've perused most of the seger web sites, and only today happened upon your amazing resource. Thank you so much for doing it - besides enjoying all that detailed info, I'm newly motivated to find some of these out of print albums. I'm dying to put together my own greatest hits (because I do not love every single Bob Seger song, to be completely honest) and I haven't sifted thru all of them yet. Do you know of a network from which I could get even a dub of someone's rare album, since it's so hard to find them?

Thanks a lot,

Emma


36

Jul 8, 1998

From: Steve Vanghel

My Seger story: I didn't know who Seger was until a college teammate of mine turned me on to Live Bullet & Night Moves. I thought Seger was a pretty good singer, but I did not become a REAL fan until one night I was at my mom's house in 1980 and was watching Muhammad Ali fight Larry Holmes on HBO. After the bout, HBO did a tribute to Ali and played Seger's "The Famous Final Scene." They showed clips of the aged and beaten fighter, his boxing career obviously over and you hear Seger telling the entire story in song.

From then on, I was hooked. It's funny, I really loved the song and wanted to go out and buy it but I didn't remember HBO crediting Seger with it. I didn't own a copy of "Stranger in Town" so I wasn't sure who the hell it was. At first, I actually thought it was Kenny Rogers!!! Anyhow, when I bought that album and listened to it, I had to have ALL of his music.

"Famous Final Scene" remains my personal favorite of his, although I don't listen to it much. I can always listen to songs like "The Fire Inside," "Roll Me Away," "Makin' Thunderbirds," "Night Moves" and one of his finest moments ever, "Travelin' Man"/"Beautiful Loser" from Live Bullet. I think his pre Beautiful Loser is really good but I don't listen to it very much.

I'll leave you with a question: Does it bother you and do you have any theories why Seger has not been recognized by the voting members of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?

SV

 

Loved your story about the Ali fight. NBC did something similar for the NBA finals years later...I would say it was '86 or '87...after the championship game was over, they signed off with a bunch of clips from the series with "The Famous Final Scene."

A quick answer on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. My take is that he'll obviously be there eventually...and meantime, there's part of me that doesn't mind waiting. You know, one more thing to look forward to.

-- SS


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Jul 8, 1998

From: "Gord Hunter" <jrsyfan@email.msn.com>

Mr Sparling,

Let's get this out of the way first: your site is outstanding. I have been on-line for approximately 10 months now and (until today) had yet to find a comprehensive Seger site.

Unfortunately I have a sad tale to tell of my meeting with Bob Seger. First some background.

I have been an ardent fan of Bob since I first heard "Live Bullet" in the basement of a friend 22 years ago. Living in Eastern Ontario, there was never much opportunity to see ANY concerts let alone big names like Seger, so Live Bullet became my frame of reference for live shows. Needless to say the bands I did see (Cheap Trick and Iron Maiden) didn't live up to that standard.

In 1983 I met a beautiful girl at the community college I was attending. After our first date (dinner and a movie) I remember telling my best friend that this was the girl I would marry. I wanted her to know how I felt without scaring her and the song that kept coming to mind was "You'll Accompany Me."

Just as school was coming to a close I noticed an ad for an amusement park in Toronto. Within this park was an outdoor stadium and the first big act of the summer was Bob Seger. The best seats I could get were in the unseated grassy area but I figured just being in the building was good enough.

It was an amazing show and turned out to be the date when both of us realized how much in love we really were. To top it off Bob played 'You'll Accompany Me' and made it so easy for me to tell my future wife just how I felt. After that night I remember thinking if I ever meet Bob I'll have to tell him about this.

Flash forward 13 years.

We are in Toronto (this time Maple Leaf Gardens) for his only Eastern Canada appearance on the 'It's a Mystery' tour. After a great show we are travelling north out of the city, preparing for the two and a half hour drive home. Sharlene notices a gray limo pull into the Four Seasons Hotel and wonders out loud if it might be him.

As I have always done since I first saw Bob in '83, I am carrying a burlap wall-hanging of the picture from the inside sleeve of Against the Wind, just in case. I have had this on my wall at my parent's house and then in my various apartments and homes since I was 14 years old.

We pull into the hotel driveway just in time to see Chris Campbell get out. We park and I rush into the lobby but too late to get an autograph. I walk back toward the car dejected but still thinking this would be a good story to tell. As I get out into the driveway, in pulls another limo. Out pop Karen Newman, Kenny Aronoff and Tim Mitchell. Kenny and Tim sign the wall hanging but I've missed Karen who ducks out of the cold Canadian air into the hotel.

Just as Kenny and Tim go inside, up pulls yet another limo and out steps Bob. I ask for an autograph but Bob says no immediately. OK fine...but I have to tell him the story. I explain how my wife and I fell in love at his concert here in '83 and his reaction is "yeah that's nice..."

As he's walking towards the elevator I ask one more time for an autograph, his response is "What part of no don't you understand?" He then turns to his security guy who obviously didn't see me as a threat and says "Just say no, right John."

The last thing I hear from Bob Seger, a man who's music had been the soundtrack of my teenage years and who had made it easier to tell my future wife that I was in love with her, was derisive laughter as the elevator doors closed.

The adjacent elevator opened just after that as I'm standing with my heart in my hands, and there is Karen Newman. She stops to ask what's wrong and I explained the story to her. She is so moved by the way Sharlene and I fell in love that she gives me her address so that I can send her a cheque for two tickets to the show in Pontiac in May. I sent her the money later that week and she returned two tickets and TWO BACKSTAGE PASSES for May 6th in Pontiac.

We went and had a great time. I met and talked with Alto, Kenny Aronoff, Chris Campbell, Laura Creamer and Shaun Murphy. My plan was to talk to Bob and try and explain things (perhaps my nervousness had thrown him off) but after thinking about it I figured that talking to him would only make things worse. Later in June (on my birthday in fact) Karen called to offer tickets to the show at Pine Knob, but I was unable to attend.

So there it is. I guess it was my mistake to confuse the artist with the man but I still can't get over that laughter as the doors of the elevator closed. Without fans, people like Bob don't have a living, and to treat a lifelong fan with such disgust didn't (and still doesn't) make sense.

I have never gotten over that meeting and to this day the music of Bob Seger lacks something. I still find Live Bullet to be one of the best live albums ever recorded, but for me his music doesn't mean as much as it once did.

As for your site....maybe it will help me to find that spirit again. I certainly hope so.

Gord Hunter

 

Your story rattled around inside me all day and gave rise to a few different answers -- some from my head and one from my heart.

First I thought this: Seger has played thousands of concerts and gigs. It stands to reason that once in while he is unforgivably rude to a truly devoted fan. Because we are all that way. Once in a while, I am miserably rude toward my wife, my son, or a co-worker. I have the advantage, though, of being able to repair the damage: I can say I'm sorry. When Seger snaps out at a fan, he never sees you again, so the hurt never gets repaired. That's a shame.

Then there was this thought about the difference between art and the artist: When we humans start out trying to produce some kind of art -- music, writing, painting, etc. -- the individual is always better than the art produced. That is, I might write a lousy poem, but I'm still a nice guy.

But after a while, the art starts being better than the person. This is one of the miracles and mysteries of life. If you keep at your art for years or decades or a lifetime, the art starts to approach perfection...yet we humans remain solidly imperfect. So...Seger rolls out two and a half hours of perfection, and then when we encounter him we are reminded that his personal level of perfection is decidedly at the human level.

Then I thought this: he has a right to say no. And it's probably annoying when people ask after he's already said no.

But then there's the laughter. The laughter you describe is a shield. It may have felt like an assault...but its purpose was protective. Seger is no fool. He knew he'd hurt you. And he needed protection from that.

Finally, I started thinking about the word unforgivable. I used the phrase unforgivably rude earlier. But now I start thinking about the things people have forgiven me for. And the word unforgivable doesn't seem right. He's given us a lot. He's given us more than we have any right to expect. Now you have an occasion to give something precious back, since forgiveness is one of humankind's most precious gifts.

Okay -- That's all from my head. Now the one from the heart.

Once, fourteen years ago I attended a week-long workshop where the writer I admired most was teaching. Through the luck of the draw, I was selected for a private conference with him on the last day of the week. In that precious half-hour, he would discuss the manuscript I'd written -- and maybe, if I was lucky, he would give me encouragement.

All week, I waited. When it finally came time for my conference, the world-famous writer walked in and told me he'd just been offered a ride to the airport. Sorry about that, he said, and he left.

I was crushed, just sitting there with my helplessness oozing out. You know how that feels. There wasn't any way I could get what I was feeling off my face or out of my heart.

My story, like yours, has a second part. Five years later, I was at another week-long conference. This writer was there again. His picture had recently been on the cover of the New York Times Magazine, and his recent book had won the National Book Award. Because of his success, only 3 students (out of 150) would get a private conference with him. When I was chosen as one of the three, I was flying. And then I went in and took a second dose of the same thing I'd gotten the first time. He hadn't read my story and barely spent ten minutes with me. Unlike you, I'm a slow learner.

So...five more years have gone by. I've just read this man's latest novel, and I loved it. It's a treasure. As a person, he's not a great guy -- or at least he wasn't to me -- but no one writes like him, and somehow, the experience hasn't changed my appreciation or satisfaction one bit. Not a bit.

Isn't that amazing? I don't know why I don't feel bitter about it, but I don't. Maybe that's just the power of great writing, or just the passage of time.

Anyway...I don't know if that story gives you heart, but I hope it does. I know it did me good to share it with you.

Thanks so much for writing -- The part about how you and your wife got together is just filled with cheer...best wishes to you.

-- SS

Scott,

Since the day I wrote you, I have been trying to explain your site to a close friend of mine who shares my musical tastes (obsessions). Unfortunately I can't possibly do it justice so I've invited him over to surf on in and check it out for himself.

In fact since that day I have thought about my encounter more and more and decided to visit the Seger File again and give it a more thorough inspection...I found my enthusiasm for all things Bob returning as I devoured page after page about some of my favorite albums (Live Bullet, Stranger in Town), burning questions (what happened to Drew Abbott ? Do Seger bootlegs really exist ?) and what the whole atmosphere of southern Michigan rock and roll was like in the early '70's. I am prone to exaggeration but in this case I feel truly justified in saying that yours is the best rock biography I have ever read.

Certainly part of that is the subject matter, but it's more than research and forgotten songs. It is the passion for the artist and his art that shines through page after page. It is your ability to let your emotions rule yet somehow step back and see things from an objective point of view....I could hear the idle dinner chatter and the plates rattling in the kitchen as you watched Drew Abbot's band at Mico's. I felt the melancholy and regret turn into relaxed satisfaction as you realized that he was happy with his station and simply allowing the music to flow through him.... Maybe it's time I forgive Bob for a momentary lack of judgement and forgive myself for things past. Thanks for everything Scott...This is probably not the first time you've heard it but your site should be the beginnings of Seger's biography...

Take care and thanks again,

Gord Hunter


38

Jul 8, 1998

From: Doug@ll.net

I heard a really good Seger song the other day where the lyric was something like, "I used to smoke 5 packs of cigarettes a day, it was the hardest thing I ever had to do to put them away." Do you know the song and album?

 

That's "Trying to Live My Life Without You." You probably heard it as an album cut off Nine Tonight, Seger's second live album. It was also released as a single in 1981. Great song...written by Eugene Williams. Seger once said that he recorded it just to prove that the Eagle stole the melody from it for their song, The Long Run.

-- SS


39

Jul 9, 1998

From: "Johan Cums" <cumsj@ce.philips.nl>

Hello There,

My name is Johan Cums, live in Belgium and my age is 36.

For more than 20 years now, since I discovered the album "Night moves" Bob Seger is really THE greatest in rock history. I have had the chance to see him live (in Brussels) on December 2, 1980. (The European leg for his "Against the wind" tour.)

I discovered your website by coincidence and I think what you have done up to now is really GREAT. My dream was and still is to come over for a few days (or maybe weeks) and see Bob on a few of his shows throughout the States.

The problem which I fear is the chance to get tickets only a few days or hours in advance. Would you mind if I contact you as soon as I hear that a next tour is scheduled. At that time maybe you can give me some information how to get tickets and tell me the best way to organize such a trip.

I hope that soon you will find the time to continue your website. Maybe you also find the time to include some information about tour books. The only tourbook I found until now was The American Storm tourbook. I suppose there are some more. Do you have some addresses where I can find some rare Seger-stuff?

There are not so many Seger-fans here in Europe and Belgium, so I would appreciate a nice Seger-discussion very much.

Kind Regards,

Johan

 

I'd be happy to help you with tour info if I can...if and when a tour is announced, I'd be glad to help you get tickets in any way I can.

As for tourbooks...there didn't seem to be one for the It's A Mystery tour, and I've never come across any others.

-- SS


40

Jul 10, 1998

From: Jodyc79589@aol.com

I am a big Bob Seger fan and one of my favorite songs is "We've Got Tonight" and I read that you don't like this song. I was just wondering why, if you do not mind my asking.

I think you have a great website. He is one of my favorite artists of all time. There is just something about him that is great. I can not describe it, I just know it to be true. Well I just wanted to ask you that question and tell you that the website is great. Thanks,

Jody


41

Jul 15, 1998

From: "Leo Cherne (S&T Onsite)" <a-leoch@microsoft.com>

Have had in my head for years the line "And she cried no, Oh Johnny, Johnny, no" and I know it was Bob's song, but it may have only been a single. Back about 1967. Any clues? Sure could stand a listen now, 'twas true rock.

Thanks

 

Sure, that's Seger's first true classic, "East Side Story."

-- SS


42

Jul 12, 1998

From: "Kurt O'Neill" <accinfo@accrecruitinghotline.com>

I saw that Seger turned down a HBO Special. Do you know why? I was hoping that he would record a concert from the last tour and put it out on tape. It would be a shame not to have a visual recording of one of his concerts. It would be great to pump up the volume on my DVD player with a Seger concert. I hope he reconsiders when he tours this next time.

Kurt

 

Seger turned down the HBO special in the late 70s or early 80s, saying "Concerts are like tribal events and you just can capture them on a small screen." He later turned down the Midnight Special and the Don Kirshner Rock Hour and Saturday Night Live because "we made up our minds a long time ago to just leave TV alone. Let's be exclusive to live performances, and people will maybe someday thank us for that. So that's what we do."

He once agreed to be on ABC's "20/20" but then changed his mind and had to pay ABC $18,000 for time and expenses. "I don't want to be that well-known," Seger says. "As it is, I can pretty much walk down the street now, except for maybe in the Detroit area, where I'm really well-known. But I can pretty much get away with walking around the United States, and I want to keep it that way. If you put your face on TV or in the movies, it's going to really change."

That's is all from my future update file (and originally from Boston Globe reporter Steve Morse)...I'll be adding more info like this to the Seger File, in November, I hope.

-- SS


43

Jul 13, 1998

From: Bill Wolski <wrw@uakron.edu>

Scott,

I just read through the majority of the July updates...As I read through the notion that good artists start out singing with their souls and eventually mature and move into the mainstream, I began to realize I'm listening to Seger's career in reverse.

I suppose that's always what happens when a new fan is made: you hear something from an artist that everyone else has heard, and you like it enough to buy the album (or in some cases, the greatest hits collection). Then the radio plays something older, or you find an album in the store...then, before you know it, you're buying anything that has the artist's name on it, including those hard to find works that no one ever heard of.

Now I'm taking all of my CD's and records and trying to put things back in chronological order for myself. I've stocked up on Sony 110 minute tapes and am putting together an "all-inclusive anthology" of Seger songs from beginning to present.

One 55 minute side has got everything from "Ramblin Gamblin Man" to "Need Ya," and that's as far as I've gotten for the time. Something tells me I'm going to have to chuck all the other tapes out of my car to make room for the ones coming in!

One more thing. A buddy of mine and I are planning a short road trip to Ann Arbor. Since you've been there before, any recommendations on where to stay, eat or shop for Seger merchandise?

 

I like your comment about listening to Seger's career in reverse. That's an interesting way to think about it.

Your tape project reminds me of something I tried about ten years ago or so. I wanted to put every Seger song on a 90 minute tape, in alphabetical order, based on the first word of the title. Of course, I could only include a few seconds of each song, in order to fit them all in. It was fun, but now out of date.

As for Ann Arbor...it's a great town, but not, as far as I know, a great record store town, with one big exception: Schoolkids Records on Liberty Street. Really cool store. They don't have any special Seger stuff, or at least they didn't when I was there, but I like their attitude.

A little further down Liberty Street you might find Liberty Records, which Bob mentions as the place where he used to listen to singles and sometimes buy them. It's more of a classical record store now, if indeed it's still there. Mainly, AA is a college town, so most of the record stores are too alternative-oriented to carry much Seger.

There are a lot of cool coffee shops and bars however. Two that I like are Cafe Zola and Sweetwater's both on West Washington Street. I don't know what the Olde Towne bar is like these days, but I'm pretty sure it's still there, in that same neighborhood.

And around the corner is the decrepit storefront with the Hi Fi Repair sign...which used to be the Primo Showbar, where Seger roared in the early '70s. I can't remember the name of the bar that used to be Chance's Are, another old Seger stomping ground...I think it's something like Dandelion...it's right across the street from Schoolkids, though. If the Fleetwood Diner is still around, it would be worth checking out. It was always a landmark.

The Detroit area has better record stores, I think. I saw a test pressing of Back in 72 in one of them...hmm, but which one was it?...Desirable Disks in Dearborn might be the best overall, of the ones I've been to. I think I've also been to Repeat the Beat in Dearborn and Rock of Ages in Garden City.

As for the Ann Arbor bar Seger sang about in Mainstreet -- he has said that the real bar was actually on Ann Street, which is nearby, and was called Mr. Floods. I'm not sure if that's still there either.

Have fun -- and if you find yourself having too much fun, and need a stone cold downer, you can always cruise through my hometown, Jackson, Michigan, just 30 miles east -- three times voted the worst place to live by Money Magazine. Non stop dullness.

Of course, you could pay a visit to the Red Lobster and know that, 35 years ago, young Bob was rockin' in the very same place...except of course it wasn't the Red Lobster then, it was a strip joint called the Roseland Inn, since torn down. Jeez..tear down a Seger landmark, put up a franchise restaurant...that's Jackson for you.

Drive safely...

-- SS


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Jul 14, 1998

From: John Waddell <waddell@microserve.net>

Subject: twenty years frpm now

I think the first line of this song is "Janice tired of her inhaler, when she moved here from back east." Just my interpretation, I could be wrong!


45

Jul 18, 1998

From: James Hicks <hijim1340@att.net>

To the people in charge:

I have been looking for the CD "Back in 72 " and have been unable to locate it at this time. Could you tell me if it is available and where I can get it? Also, I'm trying to locate a CD with the song Heavy Music on it. Please let me know what CD this song is on. Thank you.

Jim


46

Jul 18, 1998

From: Marsha

I grew up near Detroit and saw Seger for the first time in 1975 at some place in Lansing. Saw him, Van Halen, Cheap Trick and a few others in Bay City or was it Saginaw? Saw Bob lots of times at Cobo and Pine Knob.

Like the commensurate groupie, I followed him around the state and saw him perform maybe a million times, often with the man of the month in tow--sometimes by myself. Men could never understand it and maybe that's part of the reason I still travel alone. Must be the gray and a few wrinkles around the eyes.

I never spoke to Bob, I know he never saw me, but he always spoke to me through his songs and left me speechless. Could never add to Bob's truth. Now working on a doctorate in Texas and when studying or grading papers late at night, Bob still sings to me from those original 33s. Need to write his and Alice Cooper's bios. Keep up the good work--love the web page.

Marsha

This is Marsha again and forgot to add the part about all the incredible physical and emotional experiences enjoyed by myself and assorted partners through the years while listening to Seger.

 

I know what you mean about being with someone who doesn't really get it, while you're standing there just being blown away.

I also know what you mean about the way Bob communicates through his music and songs, and how it can feel like it's meant for you. Strange how that speaks so strongly to some of us...I can't explain it either but there's something pretty deep there. As for Alice Cooper...well, I loved "18" and "Under My Wheels." I think I missed the boat on some of the rest.

-- SS

 

A lot of people don't get Alice but he is the original and master of shock rock--no denial of that fact. Listen to "Only Women Bleed" --written quite a few years before it was fashionable to acknowledge women are theoretically second class creatures and subject to all kinds of horrors at the hands of the men who say they "love" them. Look at the lyrics and forget the appearance weird guy singing them. You're a pretty smart guy. You'll get it.

Those were great years for me too, a lot of sex (no AIDS) and rock n' roll--no drugs though, couldn't quite make myself take the plunge when I saw what it did to so many of my friends, a stint the Pontiac State Home was not my idea of fun.

Saw Van Halen last year. Eddie can still fry an egg on a guitar but somehow, it just ain't the same when they cut the hair. Not too many R&R concerts get this direction--must be that Bible Belt thing. Gets kind of lonely around here but the Michigan winters are too cold. See you around the site--it's one of the best.

Marsha


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Jul 20, 1998

From: "Steven R.Sampier"

Subject: Early Seger memories

Liked your web extravaganza. I was born in Detroit in '52 and spent many a day and night in Rochester Michigan listening to (and living) Bob Seger. The Primo in Ann Arbor brings back some somewhat hazy memories of a place called the Silverbell out in the country outside Pontiac.

It was actually a barn and as best I can tell is long gone. But I will never forget Seger playing in that barn. Also won't forget standing around on street corners talking about how weird it was that Detroit loved it and nobody else seemed to even hear of the band.

Of course we had it all figured out -- bad management, wrong label, blah blah blah. And then it hit the fan and we had to fight to get tickets, like everyone else. But somehow, if you grew up with Bob Seger, played a little ball on the little league field with the band, etc. you never quite feel like everyone else.

Steve Sampier, 71431.22@Compuserve.com

 

The Silverbell sounds like a terrific place to hear early Seger...And you make a good point...the strangeness of Seger being known only in Michigan for so long makes us all feel like "insiders." Sometimes I wonder if there are any other superstars who were regional stars for so long...I think with the speed and proliferation of media today, it probably doesn't happen much anymore. Regarding softball...did you actually play ball with the band?

-- SS

 

Sometimes I wonder if I can trust my memory at all. You asked about playing "softball" with the band. Actually, I don't remember much softball. I remember playing hardball. Not too sure who all played. Lots of people around. The band, the roadies, who knows. Seems to me that Seger himself lived on a farm on Tienken Road for a while. But could have been the band instead. Too many parties with too many people around...But I do remember that I played hardball at Hallbach (spelling?) Field with a bunch of Seger band, roadie, types. The rest isn't too clear.

Check this one out for a haze-induced memory. I swear I remember Bob Seger himself playing drums, that's right drums, at Silverbell. Only about 1 tune - probably Heavy Music, at that time. And mostly it may have been a joke, but maybe...Or maybe I am just a truly unreliable witness who burned out too many brain cells at an early age.

Steve


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Jul 22, 1998

From: Redwing386@aol.com

Just wanted to say I found your Website and it was a blast!

I have always loved Seger since I was a kid growing up here in Lincoln Park, Michigan (Yes, the same "Lincoln Park" Bob mentions in "Back in 72"). Saw Seger perform at the old Lincoln Park Theater, which is now a porno shop, which is soon to be torn down for a strip mall. Lincoln Park borders Detroit on the south, a strictly blue collar, shot'n'beer, lunch-bucket town, but this area is total "Seger Country."

Thanks for the memory trip backward, and the look ahead. It was a Great Time!

Redwing Paul, Lincoln Park, MI


49

Jul 23, 1998

From: Sports805@aol.com

Hi Scott,

You have done such a great job on the Seger web page. So much information...

I have been a big Seger fan since "Beautiful Loser" when I was in high school (originally from Lansing) and went big time fan when the release of "Live Bullet" when I was in college at Olivet College. On campus all you could hear my freshman year was "Live Bullet"!

I now live in Southern Indiana (Evansville) and have found out there are many Bob Seger fans in this part of the country. In fact my next door neighbor and his wife along with me and my wife are making plans to see Bob when he tours again (just like you, we are hoping for 1999!). Bob gets a lot of air time on two classic rock stations and one contemporary station in this area. In fact many college students like Bob's music and are buying his CDs in this area.

Could you please let me know ball park figure how much I should spend on the following LPs and singles; Back in '72, "Persecution Smith," "Sock to me, Santa" & "Vagrant Winter."

Any ideas who would have these for sale? I trying to fill out my Seger collection. I would really appreciate any information you can give me. Thanks once again for a great web page!

Steve Moody


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Jul 23, 1998

From: "Chris Bowers" <dcmbent@webzone.net>

In my life, Bob Seger played a large role..."Turn the Page" will always be my favorite song. I hold the highest respect for Bob.

I can't say that I have ever got the pleasure of attending one of his concerts (due to funds, or lack of) but it is a life-long dream. The only two times he ever come close enough to Oklahoma, I was too young and not permitted to go, and the second time I couldn't afford to travel to Texas to see him and buy tickets too.

Oh well, none the less, he will forever be my favorite singer! Maybe some day our paths will cross. Until then, "Turn The Page."

Chris in OK

PS: My Birthday is August 28th and I would love to have an autographed 8x10 of Bob Seger. That would make my whole year. Do you have any connections like that? Let me know.


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